Rainmaker Family Arvostelua 

Writing this review is something I never wanted to do. When I joined the Rainmakers Mastermind Program in January 2023, I was so excited and filled with hope. I believed in the promise of financial freedom and passive income they offered, and I went "all in" like they preach. I genuinely thought I had found a group of people I could trust to guide me on this journey.

But my experience has been a nightmare. The promises of success, passiveness, and minimal investment were incredibly convincing, but I now realize I was manipulated and targeted as a mom with too little experience to recognize the red flags. They brought me in by playing on my emotions with their deceptive sales pitch, making it difficult to see the truth until it was too late. Despite following their program step by step—attending calls, listening to replays, and going all in—they failed me. The guidance was incomplete, and misleading, and has left me in a very difficult financial situation.

One of the most glaring issues with the program is the emphasis Stephen places on taking calculated risks. However, the calculations provided by their profitability calculator are deceptive. The tool fails to account for essential costs, such as PPC (pay-per-click) advertising, which isn't even mentioned until you are already deeply committed. By the time PPC costs are introduced, you're so far in that there is no practical way out. Because the profitability calculator is so misleading, you’re likely to find yourself in debt far longer than you anticipated, trapped by an incomplete picture of what it really takes to succeed. This business model is absolutely not passive, as they claim.

On top of that, they recommended services like 7 Figure Funding and Prime Tax, which only added to my financial burden. These services came with exorbitant fees and, in the case of Prime Tax, incorrect tax filings that led to even more stress and complications.

I do not believe that Stephen and Chelsey even sell on Amazon themselves. It’s clear they’re making their money by selling this course, fully aware that selling on Amazon is not as profitable as they portray. The toll this has taken on my life—emotionally, financially, and physically—has been overwhelming. My credit score has plummeted, and the stress has led to health issues that I can’t afford to address.

If you are reading this, then I believe you are trying to do your due diligence, and I commend you for that. Please be careful when reading the five-star reviews—many of them are from people who are just starting out, still excited and have no idea of the harsh realities that lie ahead. Others are from years ago when Amazon was a different world, with fewer competitors and more opportunities. Today, the landscape has changed drastically, with countless new competitors entering the market at much lower prices. I’ve launched three "coach-approved" products that checked all the Rainmaker system boxes with search volume and competitors, and I am still not profitable over a year into selling. And as for being passive? Not at all—at least not for the first two years, based on my experience. I’ve worked countless hours a week, taking time away from my family—the very reason I joined this program was to stay home with my son, be present, and provide financially for my family.

Stephen also talks a lot about the importance of community, and that was a big part of why I joined. But my experience was disheartening. I was personally called out by Stephen for simply asking if anyone wanted to work together as accountability partners. I was told that they didn't want outside groups forming. Now I understand why—they want to control the narrative. I’ve since learned that they delete posts from people who are being honest and trying to warn others. If members make connections outside the group, they lose control over what is said, and they can’t censor the truth.

Here’s what I suggest: Search for more recent reviews from people who have actually used the program for more than a year and launched at least one product. If you don’t have knowledge in this e-commerce world, a brand already built, or a big audience, I am screaming from the mountain tops—do not use the Rainmaker program! If you do have experience in e-commerce, a brand, a large audience, and a product in mind, there are many other resources available that will help you launch your product at a much lower cost—without the brainwashing and misleading tactics.
This program preys on people like me- those looking for a genuine opportunity to support their loved ones. They have become greedy, and their system simply doesn’t work. They are hurting so many families and I can't stay silent about it.

Liquidated my first product and completely restarted and went with a second. This product is near and dear to my education heart! We are a week after launch and I can't wait to see it grow!

I reached out to the company many times to give them suggestions on how to improve, but for those considering this program, don’t! It is not a full blown scam but it is a ton of unfulfilled promises that led to the immeasurable debt of hundreds of moms. I don’t want to take the time to write anymore because to be honest, it’s not worth taking anymore time.

Edited because I’m baffled by their response: First off you’re going to threaten me legally after the hell you have put our family through? You’re really going to sit back there and continue your gaslighting with legal allegations that would indeed fall back on you? I’m glad because now you just look like ever bigger monsters to anyone who reads these reviews.

Second, my assumption on the number of how many are in debt is because I personally know of over 200 girls just from my time in the program and due to the fact that multiple people asked you guys for the data on success vs debt and every time the question would be deleted or not answer, I had to give a raw estimate. My question would be, do you really know? Do you know how many people who have taken your course are in debt? Because if you did and it didn’t grieve you, I have serious, serious concerns.

Lastly, this is the only review I’ve ever written so I have literally no idea what you’re talking about. You guys are the ones who make fake profiles to creep into pages, definitely don’t project that weirdness on me. And a majority of your positive reviews were incentivized or from a less invested, smaller challenge which did not leave them in $20-30 k debt. So if you really want to play that game of whose reviews are fake, check yourself.

When I joined Rainmakers, we were told in the challenge that it was possible to make six figures and higher by following their plan to an Amazon business. I was told by my coach and by responses to my Facebook questions that I could get started with as little as $1000-$2000 dollars invested. This was an outright lie.
Once in the program I realized several of the training videos were several years old. Old enough that the screen they showed wasn’t even what the current Amazon caller central page looked like. The launch they promoted violated Amazon’s terms of service in a round about way and everything was an upsell after spending $5k to get into the mastermind.
The teaching about PPC was incredibly outdated. Every thing they said to do, I did. Then they couldn’t give me any other ideas so I just wasted money on PPC and though made sales wasn’t able to get paid anything. PPC took all my profit.
When I asked for the 10k guarantee promise, I was ignored for several months, then asked the same questions over and over. Then I was denied for invalid reasons. I was able to reply with responses to all the bogus denial reasons. Eventually after 5 months I got my $5k back and then some money toward the inventory I had purchased. At that point I was in so much debt and now accruing interest, I couldn’t do anything. My credit score tanked and I still horrible 18 months later because I can’t pay off all this debt from starting the business.
Which by the way rainmakers never talked about. They glossed right over the fact it would cost thousands to get up and running not even counting buying inventory.
Please just do Helium10 and their classes. Do not trust Rainmakers or believe they are doing God’s will for your life. Just run away from this group fast.

In response to your response below that says my courses weren’t marked as complete, I’d like to point out there was an update of the rainmaker system that actually changed all the courses marked as complete to incomplete while I was an active member. I have no idea if you’ve updated it again and these courses have been marked as such from your own system updates but I can assure you while I was an active member I watched all the courses.
Unfortunately, when I tried to share my experience and concerns in the past through an email to Stephen I only received a once sentence email back from him saying, “ thank you for your feedback” that was it. I am not sure why now you’d offer anything different if I reached out and I don’t appreciate that you are gaslighting others who might read my review and your response by saying my content is marked as unread. When you would have had to review this when you finally agreed to give me a refund that I fought hard for. I honestly want nothing more to do with rainmakers and refuse to log in to any content you may have updated. I’ve seen first hand what this course did to me and to other women like me.

It pains me to write this review as the pain resonates deeply, but in light of the most recent influx of new 5 star reviews being submitted by newer Rainmaker students (they truly don’t know any better) let’s begin.

I joined the Rainmaker program in November of 2021. At that time, I trusted that The Rainmaker Family and their team had my best interest at heart - especially since they market towards stay at home moms looking to gain more time and financial freedom for their families. Unfortunately, I have since learned that was pure naivety on my behalf. I should have listened to that little figure of doubt on my shoulder: if it seems too good to be true, it almost ALWAYS is. But they have a way of drawing you in, gaining trust, hope, and excitement to lock you in.

I was “all in” and put my family in initial debt just to join their Mastermind program. At the time of my admittance, the cost to join and learn how to start an Amazon FBA business was $5000 (it is now up to $7800 for the base entry, with much more expensive "VIP" packages and upsells). From there, my debt only continued to grow to upwards of $11,000 (not including what I paid Rainmakers) with business start-up fees, required software, inventory I had to purchase, and so much more. This was the first big shock to me, since during their sales pitch they talk so much about how "affordable" this is, and how "anyone can do it". They kept saying that you don't need a ton of money to get started, and that once you join their program they will also teach you other ways to make money so that you can pay off these debts. They are NOWHERE near honest about how much it will ACTUALLY cost to start up or be successful in this business.

Still, I saw value in what I could be doing. A business I could build. The thing they DON'T tell their students is that they receive a kickback in the form of a commission (and free vehicles!) from the majority of the services they recommend or require that you sign up for, such as Helium 10, Jing Sourcing, 7 Figures Funding (credit card stacking, yikes!). The worst one of all is Prime Corporate Services, a large waste of $1000s for me (but hey, they make money off it so why would they stop promoting them even after many complaints?!) This is deceptively misleading, as they are required to disclose commission on any links supplied but never did - and never do.

Ultimately, I felt comfortable joining their Mastermind program because they have a smart sales tactic called the "10k Payday Guarantee". They describe this as a safety net and promise that if you don't make $10k in sales, they will personally pay you $10k. If anyone knows about this, you know it sounds like a foolproof reason to join! They even tout the guarantee on their website as proudly never having to pay it out before - which sounds great until you realize that the parameters you have to meet to actually claim this guarantee are SO outlandish and that the reason they say they have never paid it out before is not because no one has tried to claim it, but because they deny every request if possible.

About one year after I joined the program, I learned how deceptive their sales tactics really are. Before joining the Mastermind program, you're told that there are "limited spots available" and that you have to submit an application for them to review and verify if you are a good fit for their program or not. This creates a sense of exclusivity, but upon joining the team I learned that it was just a lie. They let anyone in with a pulse and a credit card.

Many women are in more debt than they ever imagined from joining this program. When women speak up for themselves with struggles they are having, they are silenced and their posts are immediately removed from the group - their voices literally deleted from the community. Personally, I am doing my best to recover from the largest debt I have been in other than the purchase of my home! When is enough enough? When will it FINALLY be enough to stop peddling a Mastermind program at $6800+ for one year, a failing Inner Circle program at up to $16k, a new 90 day influencer program for $3000, Lifetime access that isn’t truly Lifetime?? With a non-disparagement clause that forbids unhappy students from leaving a negative review or else getting fined???

As you can see, Trust Pilot reviews are all over the place. They are regarding so many different offerings from the company, but the biggest red flag is that a large handful of the 5 star reviews they have received are from staff that have been asked to do so. This is deceptive and against TOS - just like everything else they do.

This is my story and my truth. I gain nothing from writing this review other than a hope that more women do not fall victim to crippling debt and gaslighting.

This isn’t going to be your typical review on a program.

Most of the reviews you are seeing are from recent challenge takers who haven’t gone through the process. They are hyped from the emotional high they received. I encourage you to look for the reviews from woman who have been a part of rainmakers for YEARS, followed the process and time and time again in DIDN’T WORK.

You are probably reading this because you are trying to decide if you want to invest thousands of dollars into a program that promises financial freedom and “transformation”

My family fell for those claims as well. They knew exactly what to say to hand over thousands of dollars to their program only to be left with a crippling amount of debt.

I was apart of their community for 4 years, poured my life into it and then the company started changing and became focused on profit and conversions, not actually listening to the community feedback.

They recommend services like 7 Figures Funding and Prime services. Community members (including my family) only had bad experiences with these companies and begged The Rainmaker Family to remove them as resources. But the financial kickback for Rainmakers was too appealing to do the right thing.

I was on the leadership team for a year and my voice was silenced when I brought up concerns with the direction the Rainmakers was heading. I was in the trenches and listening to the voices of the community instead of sucking up to the big dogs and crafting my opinion on how to make the owners richer.

This ultimately lead to me being let go and eventually blocked from all Rainmaker groups.

My heart has always been to see Rainmakers succeed in their original mission, which was to help families create financial freedom.

As soon as that changed to “how can we make rainmakers post profitable at the cost of shady business tactics and causing hundreds and hundreds of families to go into crippling debt” I could no longer recommend people to invest into this company and that’s why I give it a 1 star.

Please think long and hard before signing up with them.

The Rainmaker Family has been an absolute game-changer for me as I dive into the world of launching my own business and diving into the realm of selling on Amazon. Since the very beginning, Stephen and Chelsea have been there for me, offering the tools and motivation I need to thrive. Despite my hectic schedule, the daily coaching calls have been priceless, and even though I can't always join live, the replays are pure gold. I've encountered obstacles, but with the unwavering support of the community they’ve built, I feel empowered to tackle each challenge head-on. This journey has been a rollercoaster of hard work and exhilarating yet small successes, and I am deeply thankful for the remarkable guidance and mentorship provided by the Rainmaker Family. I can’t imagine getting this much bang for my buck with any other course or community.

They have given me knowledge that I can use for future use and just been so supportive and helpful all the way. My mindset has been changed for the better from the help from therainmakerfamily.

The 30 Day Downpour was a terrific intro training to making money using social media. There are so many bonuses included and it is totally FREE! I did purchase the $1 workbook because I love looking back over the training days and my notes to help me grow.

The community is really great. There have been many times when i have a specific question and I am able to hop on a live call or ask the facebook group. I would be too scared to start this business all on my own, but now I know my fellow rainmakers have my back

Rainmakers has changed me from the inside out. There strategy, tools, roadmaps, and commitment to seeing others succeed is out of this world.

I absolutely loved the Rainmaker Family 30 day downpour. It is such a great community who actually cares about the wins of the people in the community.

This is a great program, be patient with yourself, the product will work. You got this momma!

A lot of great content presented in an engaging and easily digestible format. Love the supportive community that they foster.

Thank you for opening my mind to brand building and faceless instagram account building.

The Rainmaker Family consistently gives you information that is so so valuable! This is not a joke. This is not info you can find easily on other platforms. This is better than business school!

The amount of information shared and free resources given to mastermind members

I don't often leave reviews, but I wholeheartedly recommend The Rainmaker Challenge 100%. I took the challenge in May and ended up upgrading to their Mastermind Group. Yes, they are a business, so of course these upgrades cost money, but in my experience in these past 3 months they have over-delivered in so many ways and have shown sincere care for the success of the individuals in the community they are building. I am so happy that I aligned myself with Rainmakers and feel excited about growing with them in the future.

Just like everything the Rainmaker Family does, the 30 Day Downpour overdelivered. I wasn't able to participate as much as I would have liked during the challenge, but it was still a big encouragement to me in actually making progress with posting social content and having more fun in the creation process. It helped me to start prioritizing creating more and made it much more accessible with easier ways to create value for my media channel.

Started at 0 followers and reached over 25k accounts in a few weeks! I have no doubt this will continue growing and is SO easy!