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I have followed Mr Kreil's career with a great deal of interest and was so impressed that, having retired (and frankly a little bored with too much spare time on my hands) I decided to contact the company to have an initial call prior to seeking mentorship. I couldn't get to speak with anyone when I called so I left a message on the website and was contacted via email and asked to complete an application form prior to speaking with them. Additionally, I was pointed towards their FAQs which I found helpful. I spent a couple of days running through the content before completing the application. I sent it across and waited patiently for my opportunity to chat with them. A few days later I received an email that suggested if I wanted to take it further I could pay a deposit of $2000 before speaking with a mentor. I can't comment on the quality of the training as I didn't get to that stage. Their customer acquisition process however could do with some improvement. In my humble opinion, the onboarding process within any organisation should be as romantic and compelling as their promotional content/videos. I make no suggestion or recommendation as to what others should or shouldn't do with their hard-earned, simply that I was reluctant to part with $2000 before at least having the opportunity to chat with a human.

I was quite shocked to see so many bad reviews here for the Institute, but I suppose people will lash out emotionally when they lose money.

I began trading online in 2010 while in Uni and would do ok then lose the lot over 2-3 months before adding more funds when the next student grant money came in, haha...

2017-2022 I did really well trading crypto, the solution was really, zero leverage. That is what was killing my accounts for years.

When I completed the the pro trading course with ITPM in 2023, it opened up an entire new world of fundamentals that I had completely overlooked, since I was 100% into technical analysis and developing automated trading systems.

I've tested the strategies and processes taught in ITPM over the last two years, and for the first time in my life actually made money trading stocks!

The Stocks and Shares ISA account I opened for this is at present up 138%.
No leverage, and you can only go long in a stocks and shares ISA.
But it has proven to me that the processes taught are solid and it has given me the confidence to now take more of my investments in crypto over into stocks and also open a spread betting account to take advantage of short opportunities.

I have nothing but thanks and gratitude for Anton and the team at ITPM. I never took up the personal mentorship or fancy trip to Thailand as I was already confident in my understanding of the materials shared in the course and just cracked on with implementation. So I can't recommend those things, but I would and do recommend the ITPM course to anyone that is serious about learning how to trade professionally.

I only gave it 4 stars and not 5 stars because their website is like something out of 1995! 😅

The Thailand program is farcical exercise . Most mentees are down but they will tell you they are up .
The company and the owner have a lot to answer along with all the mentors who never prop traded but executed orders at investment banks .
More people should know this and should seek compensation for the mis-selling.
The regulatory history doesn’t match with anything remotely to do with proprietary trading if checked with correct regulator and the firm nothing more than a money making machine for the owner from selling courses . Real name ITPM.com
More people should raise concerns with the owner .
Owner is also harassing students with private investigators and scores of fake accounts across social media .

I’d genuinely avoid this company if you don’t want to be circumvented to a line of payments.
Once you’ve bought a course, you then will need mentoring which will set you back $15K - $30K. The latter is their “flagship”.
Their Thailand program doesn’t include flights anymore (use to be the case)
There’s no track record of any of the “mentors”. They won’t release their own stats to show and prove they are what they say they are.
Discord is $3K a year.
They say they intervene if they see something is going wrong in your account, for example if you’re just constantly losing money but this isn’t the case (several people have stated this). You’re also linked to broker accounts with itpm which has higher fees than if you were to go alone and self trade.
Once you’ve done mentoring, you’re by yourself. Don’t expect them to email or check in on progress. Won’t happen.

This is a money making machine for the mentors and for Anton. Once you’ve bought the course, you’re a repeat delegate and then you’re in line for payments through webinars, discord membership, mentoring (if you want).

Mentoring (25K USD) + discord (3K a year) + course — alone, if you decided to do it all, it’s a 40-50K cheque.

I’ve also found there’s a culture of “if you go against us, we will expose you to your friends, employer and so on”. Remember, when you sign up, you put your home address and all your details on the form.
Bullying tactics essentially are at play if you step out of line. Have some sort of anonymity.

So I did a mentorship with Ben Berggreen (Bengt) in Q2 2023 and this was my experience. The trading mentors have excellent resumes and they walk the talk. This right away bolsters a lot of trust. They are also dedicated and are working right now for themselves. In my mentorship, I will say though that for this same reason, the mentors are a lot like my profs at uni since the mentorship role is probably salaried, even if it is a generous pay by the institute. Because of this, there is an attitude of if you do well, cool. If you lose money, cool, it doesn't really matter, I just want to get my cheque. Now, to be fair, the trade mentors are stellar at risk management and at quality control in idea generation, and they do a phenomenal job when things arise that need the mentee to strap in and pay attention. There is just a lack of that commission-sales type of motivation to drive you to do better, and I am in no place to say whether that is a good or a bad thing since a mentor could get incredible figures by their mentee in the mentorship by copy trading and then they utterly fail post-mentorship. I do believe though that a 25:75 commission v flat rate scheme would up the motivation of the mentors. Second of all, it is important that the mentors don't completely gas up the mentees to believe they're Bill Ackman or Carl Ichan, etc. Ben is extremely agnostic in his approach, and I found this frustrating. This is the DNA of a successful trader, but I found he would never express a view on you or your progress, certainly not in the positive. Let's put it this way: If Ben says nothing, it means you've done a good job. If Ben has any comments arising from some part of your work, it's 99% probable that you have discovered an area needing improvement. This is the mentality for understanding the feedback and I would not be surprised if several mentors take this approach. Frankly, the result (the return) is the only thing that matters at the end of the day, so if you got a positive return above the best performing index over the 3 months, great, just don't get gassed up about it. The mentors are cordial, but they're not your buddy. Ben constantly emphasizes the learning as being the more important aspect. He has explained that ITPM takes the "teach a man to fish, don't give him a fish" approach. It's a hard balance to strike, but I respect it. Just don't go into the mentorship thinking your motivation will be the validation of your mentor. Imagine you are Simon in Million Dollar Traders. You will be savaged if you want a pat on the back while delivering no results. If you want a coach who gives you motivational pep talks and reminds you of how good you are, there are coaches like this out there. Don't expect this here. All that being said, I am disappointed that Ben did not have the nuance to say which things I did which were "great" or exceptionally good and not just "satisfactory" or "adequate" since I think this would also have served to point me the mentee in a positive direction without inflating away one's ego. I wish Ben had gotten specific about many of the tools and methods used. With trading, there is a never ending slew of resources available, and the difficulty is eliminating them. Again, Ben's non-committal stance is "use what you find valuable" as long as it gets the job done and provides the analysis you require. As many mentors likely share this trait, Ben is radically efficient with his time, but at the same time he will go on tangents about already familiar topics which aren't terribly helpful to the mentee IMHO. Last few notes on this review: With your mentor, you are directing the learning about 50:50 with your mentor. Always come into your session with a direction. If you let your mentor dictate the session, I have found this ends up in a net detriment to your overall max learning potential. Be the self-starter by having your questions ready and the subjects at the front of your mind before the session begins, and as Anton tells you, embrace the ITPM principles starting with self-reliance. Second, I dealt with a rep at ITPM Vlad Chilian who really jerked me around and cost me valuable time and opportunity cost in my applications to the Institute. If at all possible, deal with Alin who is highly professional and responsive (so long as you are respectful and to-the-point). I don't want to give away the business model completely, but pricing of mentorship is in the low 5-digits (USD) and if you are not in this price range then to be blunt you are not prepared to risk your capital as a serious business-oriented retail trader, let alone with a professional mentor. But overall, if you have the savings accumulated and the aptitude for this type of pursuit, the value is infinitely greater than college and you will spend a hell of a lot less in both time and money. That's a trade I'll take.

I have about 4400 hours experience as retail trader and followed already a lot of trainings from others.
I just bought the training "Introduction to Professional Level Trading" from Anton.
A big THANK YOU to Anton (and Chris :) ) for the work done and the high value brought to us.... I have learnt A LOT.

Paid for a webinar today and never received the access email... Sh$tshow. Don't bother - watch his youtube videos for free.